The Triple C Project

You can't make more time. So hire a professional

July 01, 2022 Ryan Spence Season 2 Episode 19
The Triple C Project
You can't make more time. So hire a professional
Show Notes Transcript

Confidence is believing you can figure things out and get the thing done. But sometimes, hiring a professional is the best way to get things done.

Sure, you can save money by taking the time to figure it out and do it yourself. But what you save in cash, you lose in time, and last time I checked, you can't make more time.

In this episode, I talk about:

🚀 how to know when to hire a professional and when to do it yourself;

🚀 why I refused to remove the tree stump from my garden (this is not as random as it sounds!);

🚀 why instead of spending five years spinning out as I did, you might want to think about hiring a professional.

I also talk about my recent birthday and the new way you can work with me to accelerate your growth and keep you moving forward. ✨



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Ryan Spence:

Now, for me to have gone to do that myself, I would have had to spend some time figuring out the best way to do it, get the right tool to do it, maybe buy them or figure out where to borrow them. Either way, it's going to cost me whether that's time or money, then I'd have to spend the time doing it. And because I hadn't done it before, it would have taken me a hell of a lot longer than the guy so we've done it. So all in all in time, and probably money, it would have cost me a hell of a lot more than 100 pounds, and a hell of a lot more than an hour or two hours of my time. Hire a professional. If there's ever was a reason or an example of why you should hire a professional. That's one right there.


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Ryan Spence:

Welcome to The Triple C Project, the podcast that helps you, gain clarity, boost confidence, and build courage, so you can live like lit! I'm your host, Ryan Spence, the biglaw dropout, life coach, author, speaker, lover of hoodies, hip hop, and big, hairy, audacious goals. If you're tired of living the life you think you should want, and ready to start living the life you do want, this podcast So, now we're friends, I invite you to grab a drink. Take a seat, and allow me to guide you towards living, a life that's lit!. Hey, people, welcome to episode 19 of The Triple C Project. And I was debating whether or not to tell you this, but I figure 19 episodes in we're all friends. And I also think it's important to show that even as a coach, we don't have it all together, we still do things we still fuck up, and we still make mistakes. And that's okay, we're human. We're not trying to create or make ourselves or our clients into perfect human beings, we're just trying to get that little bit better each day to attain what it is that we want to get to where you want to get to to create the vision we want to create. Anyway, that's all my disclaimer to say that I sat down to record this episode. And in my head, I already had it mapped out and exactly what I was going to be and I had a title for it. And then this little voice in my head said, just go back and look at the list of past episodes. So I went into my podcast host and I looked through the previous 18 episodes and realised that the episode I was actually going to record I've already recorded. In fact, I've already used the same title to talk about the same thing. What can I say I realised about myself or shall I say I've accepted about myself that I'm very much an ideas person. I'm very much the creative. I call myself a creative entrepreneur, because I have all of these creative ideas and want to execute them. I want to share these things with you guys share these things with the world. But the strategy, the creation of systems and detail. It just doesn't. It just doesn't like me up. It doesn't make me feel it. which probably explains why I hated being a big law lawyer so much. But yeah, I thought I just thought I'd share it with you. Because look, we've got to be transparent here and I am a little bit disorganised. I know what I'm doing. I know how to do it. I just don't necessarily always do it in the most efficient way. And the things I'm trying to work on in that space. And there are certain things which I'm just accepting. They just are what they are. So if you're a little bit like me a little bit disorganised and a little bit scatterbrained and more of the sort of disorganised artists type, then hopefully this brings you a little bit of comfort, and you can you can relate. Okay, moving on what's been going on this week. So no one complained last week, by the fact that I recorded my episode, so late in the day, which basically means I hopefully gave you the same value I always give you. So appreciate that. But this week, it's been my birthday. It was my birthday. And as I vowed to myself when I left big law three years ago, I do not work on my birthday anymore. And I stick to that, so I had a great day. What do I do? I got some haircut. I sat outside in the sun and enjoy my coffee and my favourite coffee shop. I went for a really nice brunch at a new place. Well, it's not new, but I haven't been to before here in Sheffield. had an amazing brunch, and I had a two hour Thai massage. Thai massages are literally one of my most favourite things in the world. And it could be on a beach in Thailand it can be in the fancy spot. It doesn't really matter that just just amazing. And I remember the first time I had a two hour one which was back in Singapore. Yeah. Just go. And I was just like, this is the most indulgent thing ever. And I want to do this again, again for the rest of my life. But it's very, you have two hours, right? But it's like screw it. It's my birthday. So I took two hours. And I felt absolutely amazing at the end of that. And then I went off to dinner with my wife to, again, another new vegan restaurant, which was amazing. So already know what it was a great day. And it got me thinking, like, lots of us look forward to our birthdays, or it might be Christmas, or it might be some other special days that we have. And we plan all of these great things that we're going to do. But how can we stop waiting for those days and start to introduce those things just into our everyday. That's kind of what I was going to talk about today is going to talk about creating your love life and taking something that brings you joy and just trying to find a way you can implement that into just one day if you're weak to start with. And then maybe once that becomes a routine, you introduce it into another day, or maybe you introduce something new, and all of these little steps compound to kind of start to make your life a little bit more lit. Even if you hate your job. Even if things aren't going great for you in other areas. At least you know you'll have some moments in the day to look forward to that will give you that feeling of joy. That feeling of excitement, that feeling of aliveness. Anyway, I'm not gonna do that episode, because as I said, I already talked about that way back when in episode number. I don't know, because I'm disorganised is the episode that is called What does it mean to live life lit. So if you haven't listened to that, and you want to find out more about the lit life, go ahead and check that episode out. So basically, because of that, I had to come up with something else to talk to you about today. And that's cool, because I do have, as I said, last week, lots of things I'd like to share with you things which helped me things which still helped me and things, which I think that you will find value from too. So today I'm going to talk about the concept of hiring a professional. What do I mean? What does that mean? Why am I talking to you about hiring a professional? Well, here's the thing. You can figure almost anything out these days. And I say, well, it talks about confidence, confidence is believing that you can figure things out along the way. So if I'm talking about you figuring things out along the way, why am I talking to you about hiring a professional? It's a very good question. And there's a reason for it. And the reason is this, just because you can do something yourself, it doesn't mean that you're the one who should be doing it. And there were some things where it's good to figure it out along the way, at least have a working knowledge. But it doesn't necessarily mean that you should then be the one to do it forever after. And there are some things which you just don't need to be doing unless you really, really want to sort of get a professional to do it. And the thing is, doing it yourself, you as I say you can figure anything out and doing yourself can it can save you cash, so I get it, it can save yourself some money and when you're short on cash, or you just kind of want to put that money towards other uses. Or when somebody is quoting you a ridiculous price for something and you think I can do that myself, then obviously, there's a desire there to save the cash and go ahead and do it. And that's cool. But sometimes what you save in cash, you're losing time. I mean, there's always going to be that cash and time trade off. And if you really enjoy doing something, then actually that trade off is worth it because you're saving cash, and you're using time to do something that you enjoy. But if you hate the task, then saving cash to spend time doing a task you hate. There's a problem that because you're using that time, which you could be using to do things that you enjoy, and you're slogging through it and hating every moment of it. And there are times when you don't have a choice. But I'm not going to make too many caveats here. Because if you've been listening to this podcast for the last few episodes, you'll know if I'm talking to you, and so you'll you'll get where I'm coming from. So I don't want anybody asking me saying Oh, what about when you haven't got money? What about this? What about that? Because everyone has different situations. And if you're in that situation, then I'm not talking to you. But look, I worked in big law. I know some of you work in big law work in corporate work in house. So we all have a general idea of of what we earn and and the silos that we have. And I'm not looking at anyone was pockets, but you know, you're the guys that I'm talking to in this so let's just get that other way. Okay, back to what I was saying. So you have something to do. You hate doing it, but you do it to save cash. So then You've saved the cash, but you spent the time doing something that you hate when you could have spent it doing something that would have brought you joy that would have made your life lit. Let me show an example of this. My so my dad, I love my dad, my dad's one of those guys who can pretty much do anything. Or if he can't actually do you know how to do it and can find somebody to help. And as a kid, sometimes I do think that I had watched him more closely and learnt more practical skills from him. But yeah, I didn't work. I'm just not a DIY DIY guy. I just hold my hands up, I'm just not, it doesn't excite me, I don't enjoy it. Same with gardening. My wife's keen gardener, she likes to get up there and get her fingers green. Not for me, I like to look out a nice garden, but I don't want to actually be doing the work myself. And I'm okay with that. Anyway, we bought a house earlier this year. And we're in the process of doing various things to it. And in the garden of the house, there's a there's a tree there that has been cut down before he moved in. But the stumps still there. And the really long roots, which kind of go into the lawn. So rather than than lawn being completely flat, it's got this sort of ugly roots growing through it. So when you want to play football, when I want to play football, my kids, it gets in the way. And also it just annoys me looking at it. So we wanted to get rid of this stuff for ages. So I mentioned to my dad, and he was like, Oh, you can do that yourself. I mean, you just get this and you do that. And you get a chainsaw here and you dig it out there. And all this, I'm just looking at him thinking, I'm not going to do this. So you can tell me this, but I'm not. Because I know myself, and I'm not going to do it. I already don't feel I have time to do all the other things that I want to do. And I really don't want to be digging out a tree stump. So not gonna be doing that. So, but he was all about No, I mean, you're saving cash and you're getting the work done. Even my mum chimed in was like, yeah, and you're getting your exercise, like now, I get my exercise by going to the gym, that I'm not doing that. Not doing that. So eventually, I managed to get hold of a gardener. And the gardener came around, and he made the garden look really nice and all the rest of it, which was cool. But he also took out the tree stump. And to take out that tree stump, I think it probably took two of them maybe around an hour, maybe a bit more. And it cost me 100 pounds wasn't good. I mean, I could see the value their professional outfit, they seem like really cool, guys, the idea of going away and being sort of confined away rather than trying to be at home and doing everyone's everything else seemed to make sense. But again, I just kept going back and forth about this. Anyway, in the end, I just bit the bullet and said, Screw it, I'm doing it. Excuse me, and I booked it. And so I went away and did it. And I knew within probably five or 10 minutes of sitting down to do that. It was the best decision. And it was the best decision. Because, look, I could have sat here recorded the book myself. But there's lots of technical requirements for getting your audio book onto various platforms. There's just the whole prospect of reading your own words. And because you're reading and I write like I talk, you skip over words, or you say things how you think you'd say them in the moment, not necessarily how they're written. So there will be errors there. And just the sound just actually having that isolated sound as well. So then it sounds like a professional outfit. I mean, I spent all this time and money getting the book to look professional, I didn't want the audio book to look half assed. So going away and paying professional or to be in a professional studio with professional producers and engineers who had an isolated room, which was absolutely dead silent, really top notch gear, who were in my ear and were following along and could point out when I'd made a mistake, or when the pace had changed, or suggest that maybe I won't want to do this. But again, because it didn't sound as good as the before. All of those sorts of things were invaluable. And were well worth spending the money on hiring professionals to do that job. So there's lots of other examples that I could share. But I think between the tree stump and the recording studio, I think you kind of get the gist. And the gist is that hiring a professional is going to save you it's going to save you time. And that time can be used to do the things that light you up or to do things that better serve you. It doesn't serve me to go and dig out a tree stump. When I haven't done it before. I don't enjoy it. And I can get somebody who their job is to professionalise what they're trained for and pay them to do it. It doesn't make sense for me to sit and record my own audio book and go through the headaches of figuring out whether the technical technical aspects are correct and the sounds right and the levels are good. When I can pay somebody who has all the equipment and everything that's needed, and the experience and expertise to do that just doesn't make sense. And as I was thinking about these stories and these scenarios, it brought me back to the latter five years of my time in big law, when I was spinning out, not really knowing where to turn, feeling stuck, and not really knowing how to get out. And if I'd known, then, what I know now, I would have hired a professional thing is, I didn't know what I didn't know, I didn't know that you could hire people, you can hire coaches, who could help guide you through those situations, I just thought a coach was what senior lawyers got to help them get ready for partnership. That's kind of how it's presented. To me, that's kind of where I saw coaches, and didn't believe or feel that other people had coaches, I just didn't feel that a coach was for me. But if I had known what I know, now, chances are, I would have just hired a professional. And I would have saved myself five years, it would have saved myself so much time in figuring out who I was what I wanted, where I wanted to be, I would have saved myself so much time in getting the confidence to believe that I could create and design the life that I wanted to live, that I could figure things out along the way, that I didn't need to know the how I just needed to know the what, and then just trust my intuition and trust in myself. And I would have got the courage a lot quicker to just take the action to get after it and not worry about it to just get moving and keep moving. But hey, that was me. And that's the benefit of hindsight. But the beauty of my hindsight is that I can help you, I can help you to just think about whatever it is that you're doing what you want to get done. Consider whether hiring professional is the thing to do in that moment. There's a concept I heard someone talking about before called paying to go faster. And in some instances, it's true. By paying somebody to do something you can make you go faster when they already have the skills, the knowledge and the expertise, when they've already been there before. Tapping into that can sometimes help you to go ahead of a lot faster than trying to figure it all out on your own. And as I said, at the start of this episode, there are advantages to figuring some things out on your own. For me, sometimes I just like to know how to do the thing, go through the pain of doing the thing. So that when I do hire a professional, I do get somebody to help. I already know how to do it. And there's value in that in some things, but not in everything. So that's today's episode, hi professional, you can try and do everything yourself. And you may save the cash, but you lose on the time. And time is the one resource which cannot be renewed, can always make more cash, you can always go another job, you can always start a business, you can always generate ideas, you cannot get back more time. So I'll leave you with that today. And if this episode has made you think, okay, yeah, I have been spinning out for a while maybe now is the time that I kind of got some support to just help sort through some of the thoughts that go in your head, whether it's getting clarity on what it is, and all the ideas that you've got going on and your values or whether it's just kind of building some belief to take the next step, whether it's just getting the courage to do something to just take action. Come talk to me. And we'll see how we can make that happen together. And as it's my birthday, what I have decided to do this week is open up some solo slots. So normally, my coaching programmes are a programme. They're a minimum of 12 weeks. And that's kind of what we do. And then we go beyond that. If if if we both feel that wants to do that. But as it's my birthday I was like, what can I do? What can I do for the people that are listening to my podcasts, people are supporting me, the people that that are really getting, getting something from what I'm sharing and really benefiting from them. And so what I'm going to do is I'm opening up what I call one to one acceleration sessions. And these are 75 minute coaching sessions, where we sit down and I can coach you on one specific thing. So for example, when I've done these in the past, somebody came to me because they were struggling to implement boundaries and build sustainable habits. So they could create space and time to actually start to figure out what was that they wanted. So he worked on that. We what else have we done, I've worked with people on getting the courage to give a speech, for example, I mean, just kind of really role playing and going through the process of getting up and talking. Or just having a conversation with their boss about something that's a little bit challenging. So it can be anything that is a sticking point for you, that is stopping you from moving. And you just want to have a little bit of support with that. And also, particularly, you haven't had a coach before, you may just kind of want to get a taste of what coaching was all about. And this is a great way of doing it. So one to one acceleration session, and you get 75 minutes, and then you also get five days of Voxer support thereafter with me to help give you that support. And that accountability. Voxer is just a voice messaging app. And it's really cool. I use it a lot with my own coaches and also with my clients. And it's a really great way of kind of having that back and forth. poster session. So if you've thought about working with me, or if, if listening to this episode, you thought that actually Yep, now's the time to stop spinning out and really kind of see how I can start to move forward. Head to And ust read through the page there, that page is all about what I do as a coach, all about how it can help you and largely about the programme. And there's also some information at the bottom about the acceleration session. Or alternatively, you can shoot me an email at hey, that's h e y And we can chat there and I can shoot you the details and you can book a call. And finally, you can get yourself on to my email list, which is where all the magic happens. So head to And click the link to download your FREE confidence journal. And that will get you on the list. And that way you'll always be up to date on what else is going on or other goodies I'm giving away. I think I'm going to be doing some some sort of promotions around the audio book once that is due for release, which should be sometime in July. So to find out about all of that, you're going to want to get on the email list. So all of those links will be in the show notes. And anything else you can always head to And find it's all there. Thanks as always for listening to me, I just, I just love that you guys tune in week in week out. And obviously to do that you're getting something from the episode. And that really, really means a lot to me. I would love to hear what insights you take away from this episode, or any previous episode. Shoot me an email or hit me up on Instagram or LinkedIn. And yeah, just let me know. And if you did take some really cool insights away, share, share the episode, share it on your social media, share it with a friend, the more that we can share positivity, we can share things that are giving a positive impact to to our lives with others, we create that ripple effect. And that's a beautiful thing. So thanks again. And as always, until next week, stop living a life of lethargy, start living life lit. Thanks for tuning in to The Triple C Project. Before you go, I want to share something with you. When I was in BigLaw, I struggled with limiting beliefs. I didn't have the confidence to believe that I could change my life, that I could leave big law and do something that I could move from a life of gratitude and create a life that's lit. That's why I created the Confidence Journal. For people like you who are in the same position that I was, who are struggling, with that confidence and need a boost to allow you to believe you can do the things that you want to do. The confidence journal is six journal prompts that I've used, and I still use to help me get from a guy who was too scared to post on Instagram, to the guy who is now committed to giving a TED talk to the guy who wrote a book to the guy who launched a podcast. You can do any of this too. All you need to do, is start boosting your confidence. So to do that head to Download the confidence journal. It's free. It works and it's going to change your life. Thanks for tuning in. See you next week. And remember, stop living a life of lethargy, and start living life lit!